Fortune look at CA. Don't like what they find.

Indeed, some veteran employees were irked at what had happened to CA, but preferred to blame the problems on prosecutors, the SEC, or the press.

I don't believe in kicking people when they're down (Kicking them to put them down is just fine), but the quote above rang a lot of bells for me. Through various circumstances I've spoken to numerous current and ex-CA employees and they've all echoed the sentiment above. The most recent instance being just a few months ago in a shared taxi while traveling to an airport.

It always goes something like this: Computer Associates wasn't responsible for what happened to Computer Associates, someone else was. Not us. Them.

Every time I hear the "Not us. Them." refrain I consider the fact that they say "to" and not "at". Fortunately CA is so large that even if it stopped booking business tomorrow morning it's sheer inertia would carry it through into the next decade. There's time for that cultural transformation yet.